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Hi all, and welcome back to On Background, my weekly newsletter about the media industry. We are still in the thick of events season here in New York. 

 

Last Thursday, I moderated a session at Stagwell’s Future of News Upfront in Chelsea, where I spoke with media executives at the AP, Washington Post, and Axel Springer about their efforts to translate artificial intelligence into new lines of business. Scroll to the bottom of the newsletter to see a photo of us in action.

 

Tonight, I am off to the new Substack headquarters, where cofounder Hamish McKenzie, along with a coterie of Substack creators, have invited press to an evening of networking ostensibly geared at promoting several of its new features. Specifically, the programming is meant to dive deep into the future of Notes, its Twitter alternative, so follow along with me here.

 

In tonight’s issue, I examine a new strategy from Morning Brew, which is turning even its non-editorial staff—including its directors of human resources and consumer revenue—into creators. The publisher has historically been ahead of the curve when it comes to creator strategies, and this latest initiative hints at the burgeoning world of business-to-business influencers. 

 

But before that, a few brief tips, notes, and scoops that you should know about below. As a reminder, replies to this email go straight to my inbox, so please feel free to reach out with feedback, tips, or extremely good pitches.

MARK STENBERG, SENIOR MEDIA REPORTER, ADWEEK
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TALKING HEDS

  • The TikTok Times: The New York Times unveiled a “Watch” tab in its app on Tuesday, marking one of the first times a news publisher has introduced a dedicated space within its app to showcase vertical video. The TikTok-inspired product will have neither ads nor any personalization elements at launch, though both are slated to arrive next year, global chief advertising officer Joy Robins told me. The launch is a testament to the influence of TikTok, as well as the latest in a series of multimedia expansions from The Times, which has been introducing new features at a rapid clip.

  • Vox Walks: Vox Media chief marketing officer Jackie Cinguina announced her departure from the company, ending an eight-year tenure that began at New York Magazine. Vox Media has adapted nimbly to shifts in the digital media landscape that have felled many of its peers over the past decade, embracing creators, podcasting, franchises, and alternate revenue streams in a bid to stay both afloat and relevant. No word yet on her next move.
  • The Daily Beast Delivers (EXCLUSIVE): The improbable—and controversial—turnaround at The Daily Beast continues apace. The Beltway outlet, whose parent company IAC sold a 49% ownership stake last April to media veterans Joanna Coles and Ben Sherwood, is on pace to notch its first-ever full year of profitability in 2025, the company’s president tells me. Revenues and headcount are up—roughly 20% and 25%, respectively—meaning the Beast found its way into the black through investment, rather than cost-cutting. It anticipates a seven-figure profit in 2026.
  • Brandweek Beckons: Next month, ADWEEK is decamping to Atlanta for Brandweek, our annual, three-day conference bringing together the best brand marketers, media executives, and technology providers in the country. I’ll be moderating a number of sessions—including one with Gannett that I am particularly excited about—and will be joined by folks from media firms including CNN, Yahoo, Netflix, ATTN:, and The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, among others. You can find more details here, and I hope to see you there. 
 

THE LEDE:

 

Could the Next Hit Podcaster Be … Your CFO?

On Tuesday, the business news publisher Morning Brew announced the launch of a new podcast, called People Person, to complement its business-to-business franchise HR Brew. 

 

The show, however, will not be hosted by a journalist, social media lead, or even a professional podcaster—instead, it will be led by Kate Noel, the senior vice president of people operations at Morning Brew.

 

The podcast, which will explore the complexities of running a human resources department in this particularly disruptive moment, is not the only Morning Brew podcast helmed by its commercial staff. 

 

Per My Last Email, a career advice podcast launched by Morning Brew in April 2024, is led by Morning Brew chief of staff Kyle Hagge and director of consumer revenue Kaila Lopez. And, according to Morning Brew president Devin Emery, more such products are in the works. 

 

“We have Revenue Brew, so if we decide to do content for that, we would want someone from our sales team to be talent,” Emery said. “We are building out a mechanism that enables not just our journalists, but also our business-side folks, to be creators.”

 

Even in a media landscape where journalists are increasingly encouraged to imitate influencers, this arrangement stands out. It is one thing to ask a reporter, who has nominally agreed to act in some sort of public-facing capacity, to speak into a mic or get in front of a camera. It is another thing entirely to ask that of your rank and file staff.

 

But when it comes to creator strategy, Morning Brew has historically been ahead of the curve. Axel Springer acquired the startup in October 2020 for $75 million largely because it appealed to younger audiences, a feat it accomplished in part through its early embrace of influencers. 

 

Nearly from its inception, Morning Brew paired a distributed approach to editorial—building around franchises, each with newsletters, podcasts, and video, rather than a singular website—with a cinematic universe of social media creators. 

 

These creators were given an expansive remit to create seemingly whatever kind of content they wanted, so long as it tied tangentially back to the world of business. Several of these ambassadors, including Dan Toomey and Macy Gilliam, have become bona fide stars in their own right, and their virality has lent a halo effect and heightened brand awareness to their employer.

 

Now, Morning Brew is once again seizing on an emergent trend.

 

The rise of the B2B creator

In recent years, a new cohort of creator—the B2B influencer—has emerged, thanks largely to platforms like LinkedIn.

 

These creators often tout their expertise in specific professional disciplines to capture attention in the nebulous world of thought leadership. Folks like Lenny Rachitsky, Colin and Samir, and Link in Bio’s Rachel Karten have helped pioneer the field.

 

For B2B marketers, these creators serve a function similar to that of their consumer counterparts: they review products, create compelling content, and help their brand partners win business.

 

The field has grown rapidly. According to a 2024 survey from TopRank Marketing, 81% of B2B marketers now have dedicated influencer marketing budgets. 53% said their budgets were growing, and 9% said they planned to introduce such programs in 2025.

 

For Morning Brew, just as the publisher was quick to incorporate creators into its consumer-facing brands, it now wants to do the same for its business-facing portfolio, which includes franchises like HR Brew, Revenue Brew, IT Brew, and Marketing Brew.

 

The qualifications for these creators, though, are somewhat different from standard influencers, according to eMarketer analyst Emmy Liederman. 

 

In an April 2025 report from eMarketer surveying the top criteria for working with B2B creators, marketers ranked authenticity and credibility first (58%), ahead of industry relevance (49%), subject matter expertise (47%), and audience engagement (45%). 

 

What matters most in the world of B2B influencing, then, is not audience size, notoriety, or even market-commanding expertise. Instead, what resonates is a sense of legitimacy, something that actual practitioners have in spades.

 

“In typical influencer marketing, engagement is at the top,” Liederman said. “With B2B marketing, what moves the needle is showing that you have authority.”

 

Good talent is hard to find

Critically, Morning Brew does not consider People Person or Per My Last Email to be B2B marketing, according to Emery. They aren’t selling a service, only capturing attention.

 

Still, whether the content is marketing or editorial, what attracts an audience remains somewhat universal. And key to that endeavour is finding the right talent.

 

Morning Brew has intentionally opted to recruit in-house for its talent, pointing to the known culture fit and lower initial investment as rationale, Emery said. It is not opposed to recruiting outside talent, but its first instinct is to look internally.

 

Noel, for instance, has been with the publisher for five years and is “electric—somebody you remember meeting,” according to Josh Kaplan, founder of the B2B creator agency Smooth Media and a former Morning Brew employee.

 

“It’s hard to find good talent in the world of B2B creators,” Kaplan said. “So if you happen to have that talent as your director of HR, you probably want to take advantage of it.”

 

The prospect of recruiting internal talent to serve in roles outside of their stated job description could raise potential issues, according to Liederman. How the employee is compensated, whether they feel comfortable declining to participate, and the effect of the additional workload are all points of concern.

 

In the case of People Person, Noel receives a share of the revenue she generates, according to Emery, although he declined to offer further details. She also volunteered for the opportunity, rather than being asked to participate, Emery added. She’d also been featured in Morning Brew’s editorial offerings before, answering reader questions for the “Make It Work” advice column.

 

The new responsibilities do not change the employment relationship between Noel and Morning Brew—she is not “talent,” at least in the contractual sense. And the publisher, which has nearly a decade of experience in working with creators, will use producers to script the show, Emery said.

 

Company booster

But even with these guardrails in place, the move to cast revenue-side staff as creators underscores a pivotal shift in how companies are navigating the boundary between their employees’ personal and professional lives.

 

Increasingly, your presence on the internet is tied to your profession, which means both your digital and analog behavior can ultimately reflect on your employer. Look at the Coldplay kiss cam scandal as evidence of how quickly a personal affair becomes a corporate concern. When it comes to the intersection of your personal social presence and its relationship to your job, the distinction between the two is growing thin. 

 

Of course, this line of inquiry can quickly get existential. In a world where value is defined by where you place your attention, every social media post is an act of influence. We have mostly made peace with this reality, in part because such displays have been voluntary up to this point. But this latest evolution in creator behavior is unsettling because it questions how much longer that might be the case. 

 

Are we bound for a future in which employees are expected to be public boosters of their companies? Consider that most of us already are—every time you post on LinkedIn, you are directing your followers’ attention to your employer. 

 

On the extreme end of this spectrum lies Lara Sophie Bothur, a business analyst at Deloitte who became its first “corporate influencer” in 2022. In her role, Bothur acts as an ambassador for Deloitte, articulating its views through her own personal social media. 

 

“I represent the company and am one of its communication channels,” Bothur said. “Internal advocates of a company make it more human, which helps us build trust.”

 

While this kind of commitment is atypical now, it could soon become an expectation for employees, particularly executives. 

 

Already, CEOs are expected to serve as mouthpieces for their organizations. In Silicon Valley, founders increasingly cycle between a circuit of podcasts hosted by other founders, all of whom are expected to beat the drum for their startups. Consider that the hottest new technology podcast, TBPN, consists solely of two technology boosters cheerfully platforming technology executives. 

 

Given these realities, how much longer will revenue-side leaders be allowed to sit on the sidelines of the attention economy? Practitioners without podcasts could be seen as underutilizing their expertise, leaving eyeballs on the table that could otherwise benefit their employers. 

 

Such a reality feels distant. But it is almost certainly on the horizon.

 

PULLED QUOTES

“It’s mostly just Chrome.”

— Platformer reporter Casey Newton, on OpenAI’s new browser, Atlas

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“Who is going to review a new car? Humans who sat in it. Who’s going to tell you what the food tastes like? Someone had to eat it.”

— Reddit CMO Jen Wong, on why the platform has thrived in early days of the AI era

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“My experience is that money and transactions purify relations; ideas and abstract matters like ‘recognition’ and ‘credit’ warp them, creating an atmosphere of perpetual rivalry.”

— Nassim Taleb, quoted by Components writer Andrew Thompson to explain the true innovation behind Substack

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“I’m trying to hang out with Gen Zs and listen."

— Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev, on his company’s pursuit of younger investors

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QUOTE/UNQUOTE

Paul Needham is chief executive officer of the food media publisher The Infatuation, which is celebrating its “Sweet 16” anniversary with a Salt and Straw collaboration—a Cake Batter Swirl—available in New York, Los Angeles, and Miami this weekend.

 

The editorial brand, which was acquired by Chase in 2021, has used social video and mapping features to leapfrog many established players in the space.

 

Mark Stenberg: You started at The Infatuation in 2019. How has it changed the most since then?

 

Paul Needham: When I started at Infatuation, we had an office in Soho with an elevator that opened onto the street and was usually broken. Now we are, improbably, part of the world’s biggest bank. What hasn’t changed has been our belief in quality content, our ambition to help people make the most of their time with family and friends, and our love of food and restaurants. 

 

Mark: What coming initiatives are you most excited about at the company?

 

Paul: Our annual Best New Restaurants list is always a highlight. It’s a feel-good moment that celebrates the industry and shows the impact we can have in helping people discover great new places. We have a team chat where we share messages from restaurant owners thanking us for reviews that have made a difference. We're also continuing to grow and meet our community where they are, from launching our podcast Restaurant People to starting our Substack, Where We’ve Been.

 

Mark: How does The Infatuation measure success, given that its P&L is less relevant due to its Chase ownership?

 

Paul: At the end of the day, growth and engagement are what matter most. Success now is measured by both impact and interaction—how many people we’re reaching and how deeply they’re engaging with our content. Link & Dine is a great example: Chase cardmembers who link their Infatuation and Chase accounts can earn statement credits for dining at participating restaurants, which lets us track engagement while delivering real value to Chase customers.

 

Mark: What are the most influential factors shaping food media right now?


Paul: There’s no question that Instagram and TikTok are the battleground in food media. We were really proud that one of our social media leads, Nicolas Zhou, was profiled in Link In Bio. We stand out in many ways, but one point Nicolas makes that is crucial: We are dining anonymously, paying for the food ourselves, and genuinely independent.

 

Mark: What was a really good restaurant meal that you had recently?

 

Paul: I was at Wild Cherry last Saturday and was blown away by the energy and the food. Thighs & Fries may be my new favorite dish in New York.

 
 

At Stagwell's Future of News event last Thursday. From left to right: Gabriel Brotman, COO of Axel Springer US; Kristin Heitmann, chief revenue officer of The Associated Press; Johanna Mayer Jones, global chief advertising officer of The Washington Post; Clare Conley, chief communications officer at Qualcomm; and me.

 

Mark Stenberg is Adweek's senior media reporter covering the business of digital and print media and publishers, including their advertising, marketing and editorial strategies. Before joining Adweek Mark was a reporter for Business Insider.

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